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#201: How Much Money Do You Need to Trade Futures?

How much money do you REALLY need to trade Futures?

In this episode, Algorithmic breakout trading specialists Tomas Nesnidal and Andrew Swanscott discuss:

  • Why Futures is the best market for serious traders,

  • The dangers of having the wrong account size,

  • 4 factors that determine account size,

  • The Rule of 1.5 and Maximum Strategy Drawdown,

  • Mini and micro trading,

  • Daytrading and swing trading,

  • Account size requirements for portfolios,

  • Money management for quick growth,

  • And much more.

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Episode Highlights:

[00:00] Introduction

[01:45] Why Futures is the best market for serious traders

[02:55] The dangers of having the wrong account size

[05:20] The 4 factors that determine account size

[05:45] Maximum Strategy Drawdown and the Rule of 1.5

[10:15] Account sizes for Daytrading vs Swing Trading

[12:05] Account size for mini and micro trading

[15:00] Portfolio account sizing

[22:45] Correlation to reduce drawdown

[28:12] Breakout trading book

[30:40] Money management for quick growth

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What others are saying

"Tomas is one of the most creative traders I know. He is able to generate unique trading ideas and elegant solutions to system development challenges."

Andrew Swanscott,

"Tomas has been a professional trader for more than a decade and I have had the privilege of monitoring his accounts in action since 2006. His systems are performing as some of the best I have ever monitored and executed. I have been in the trading industry since 2002 and worked with many developers from all over the world. Tomas is definitely the one to consider."

Martin Lembak,

Systems Trading Expert,


"Tomas is a professional trader, who for the last 10 years has specialized in developing trading systems. We have been tracking his trading systems for about 5 years and they generally show very robust, stable and above average performance. Striker is pleased to work with someone like him - a real professional with enthusiasm and deep knowledge of trading."

William Galwas, President Of Striker Securities, Inc 

"Personal consultation with Tom helped me to re-evaluate the complexity of my robustness testing and optimization processes. Plus, it has helped me with a specific plan on how to take things forward. It has given me some great ideas on how to avoid overfitting and make my testing more robust and provided tips on low hanging fruit in terms of the best markets to trade for intraday/short-term breakouts."

Craig Peters,

semi-advanced trader,

United Kingdom 

"Tom's approach to Automated Trading Strategies design, tests of robustness and portfolio diversification is really unique. He has been a professional trader for many years and the depth of his understanding of Breakout strategies and Market Internals is hard to find elsewhere."

Antonin Fisher,

Hedge Fund Manager,

Czech Republic 

"Tom´s systems and trading approach do really work and can bring good, stable and reasonable returns. I can highly recommend him as a teacher."

David Hruby,

Trader, Czech Republic 

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